WHY DID THE FEDS DECLAIR CBD TO BE A SCHEDULE-1 DRUG?
WORLD'S #1 NUTRITIONALIST DR. MERCOLA AND DR. MARGARET TALK MARIJUANA - PART 1
CBD being declared a Schedule 1 drug arbitrarily, rhetoric has no basis in reality.
DR. MARGARET SWITCHED FROM PRESCRIBING PHARMACEUTICALS TO RECOMMENDING VITAMINS, HERBS, MINERALS AND MEDICAL CANNABIS, BECAUSE THEY WORK BETTER WITH LESS TOXICITY IN MAY CASES. IT WASN'T A MONETARY THING. ITS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE REALLY NEED AND WHAT REALLY IS EFFECTIVE.
Dr. Mercola: Did you know? "Once there is a greater availability of Marijuana. The death toll from opiates does go down with marijuana legalization."
If a medicine like marijuana was being looked at for the first time, it would be in all the headlines, and hailed as an incredible boon to mankind, because it can actually work through a natural system, and it can do so many things, without being toxic. It offers so much to people on a medical level.
Cannabis is a vastly underutilized therapeutic option that is incredibly vilified by the governmental regulatory agencies.
We are joined by Dr. Margaret Gedde, who was a Stanford trained physician, a pathologist specifically, and an award winning researcher, who was actually medically practicing for the drug companies when she first started her job, but the switched out of that model in 2004. Now she is in Colorado, really the home of medical marijuana, or the one of the first states to widely apply it. She now has an alternative medical based practice that’s focused on holistic, supportive and non-drug based care.
Dr. Margaret specializes in the use of Cannabis and is really an expert. She uses that experience to help her patients get healthier, get off of pills, especially opiates, which are now killing one American every 20 minutes, so she has helped them to actually have a far better quality of life.
Dr. Margaret Gedde: Thank you so much, it’s a pleasure to be here.
Dr. Mercola: Yesterday, the day before this interview as we’re speaking, the DEA announced that they revised the schedule one controlled substance acts ,and now have included CBD cannabidiol as part, even though is no psychoactive component, they’ve included CBD as a schedule 1 drug, perhaps you can expand to us and give us your perspective, because this, to me, is a devastating piece of news.
Dr. Margaret Gedde: Yes, it has been a real boon to have CBD available, in really just the past couple of years. Colorado and other states have started to grow hemp, which is an excellent source of CBD and CBD is not only non-psychoactive, it is remarkably non-toxic, much much less toxic than even over the counter medications, that are commonly used. So the concept of putting cannabidiol CBD on schedule 1 of the drug schedule, saying that it has no medical use, and it’s highly dangerous, just flies in the face of a fact and science and knowledge.
It's such a regressive move, it’s certainly very disappointing and what it means is that our patients, who live outside Colorado now, now are going to have to contemplate again, actually moving. In effect, being medical refugees having to move to a state that has the cannabis or CBD needed. Many of our families were shipped the high CBD Low-THC oil, that has been available, and hemp has been imported and shipped for a long time. But now, with this move ,they are not going in the right direction. They are definitely going backward and it’s like in a hostile, hostile act.
Dr. Mercola: Yeah, it’s it’s interesting, but first just a point of clarification, it’s still legal like in states like Colorado and Washington, where their state laws allows for the use of not only CBD but the THC therapeutically.
Dr. Margaret Gedde: yes…
Dr. Mercola: it’s legal within the state, so this new DEA law applies only to interstate commerce.
Dr. Margaret Gedde: They’re gonna apply it to shipments across state lines, now within the State of Colorado. Colorado has set up its own rules and system but the cannabis with both THC, CBD, it is illegal federally in any case. I guess you could say we're protected within the borders of Colorado. If the Department of Justice had released a list of six priorities, when the federal government was looking is looking at states with medical cannabis laws - or just marijuana laws in general - where they wanted to be sure that product wasn’t being shipped outside the state - you know that a certain number of things they wanted was to be sure organized crime was not getting involved.
They said, if the states would stay within these guidelines and not create interstate crime, then they would stay hands-off. So that’s where we’ve been operating. CBD was available across state lines, but now you know, with the new administration and the new year, the DEA is not gonna allow the CBD to be shipped. We’ll see if the priorities of enforcement change at all, and find out if we can operate a medical marijuana program within the borders of Colorado. Again, this is something that’s controversial, at some level, there are those who say no to the federal government, that marijuana rights should go into states. I guess its if its going to be better (compassionate and sensible) enforcement. At the end of the day, its kind of up in the air.
Dr. Mercola: Colorado is one of the first state to approve and legalize medical marijuana. If I’m not mistaken, Colorado's had the most experience of any other state, so I’m wondering if you can comment as a practicing physician, on the impact of that legislation. Obviously there will be a big bias, that’s a big part of your practice, but as I understand, this is heavily taxed and there’s an enormous, absolutely enormous amount of revenue coming to the State of Colorado. So much more than ever anticipated.
I understand Colorado is actually giving rebates to the residents of California. I mean, from the state's financial perspective, it’s been enormously effective, at least it seems to be as an outsider. What I’m aware of, is how its impact on the social-recreational use, and if that’s increase emergency room visits or if its had any counter-productive impacts on the culture society in Colorado.
Dr. Margaret Gedde: The impact of having legal recreational marijuana, I think it has been quite positive a couple of ways. One is that if it’s legal for adults to use marijuana, then it’s much easier for any person to come in and seek medical cannabis. After it was legal of legal for adults to use marijuana in Colorado, we saw more and more people coming into the clinic, who would never use marijuana before, who just, you know, because it was illegal, there would be the stigma, they just couldn’t bring themselves to say I’m interested in this or to admit they tried it and actually help them and that’s why they were there in the clinic, so having the recreational actually has helped to clarify the difference between recreational use and medical use in my experience and as far as culture and society in Colorado there are some people who don’t like the number of shops, they’ve got regulations about their sides we have green crosses that sort of indicate the presence of a cannabis shop and so some people think they’re too many of them and so forth.
However, I think it actually has made a very positive change in the state, there’s data coming out I guess year by year, suggesting that in Colorado specifically and I think General Medical States once there is a greater availability of marijuana the death toll from opiates for example does go down and we’ve also seen some data that there’s less alcohol being used on the roads so we these are preliminary data and some people would say you know this is too soon or you can make those conclusions but actually we really haven’t seen problems there aren’t they they’re there are rules against using marijuana in public so people aren’t supposed to be walking down the streets and smoking marijuana in any case so things are really pretty pretty calm and going smoothly and I think most people are pretty happy with the developments in the state with marijuana availability and the laws.
Dr. Mercola: Yeah, I know initially the governor was quite reluctant and concerned assigned this legislation to law and my guess it seems like he shifted his perception, or position on this.
Dr. Margaret Gedde: Yes, I think the governor did say he was concerned, he had some reservations, but he was gonna pursue it, and see, you know, to take it a step at a time, and so having taken that position, then after having rolled it out, and going through the steps, I think the governor will say okay, we’re doing okay, we’re not seeing a lot of the problems that we thought we might, and it is an ongoing process, of regulation going through the state levels, and the local levels, and here in Colorado Springs.
I have the privileged opportunity to sit on a working group of in the city, for the city, addressing cannabis issues, and so they’re the issues that just keep coming up, as far as what communities need to do, to make the cannabis available to patients, to keep the access open, but to make sure the community is not having problems; for example, large home grows cause odor, that’s sort of a thing, where people are growing their marijuana at home, to use either recreationally, or for their medical use. A lot of people find it very cost-effective to grow their own medicine. The biggest thing is that walk down the street and you smell the marijuana. and neighbours complaint so that’s like one of the hot issues.
Dr. Mercola: Interesting, first world problem for sure, the you know I personally you know is not actually it’s legal in the state where I live or a resident now, but it’s only used for medical used so it’s not for recreational, there’s not many states as legal recreation, so I would never use it and do it you know against the law because I’m a too high-profile person, but if if it was legal either in a heartbeat and I’ve really regenerative agriculture is one of my passions and hobby, and I’ve become quite proficient of it being able to grow plants wildly thriving because I live in Florida, but if it was legal, I would be growing it and probably just in a smoothie everyday, not that high THC version, but the CBD, because it has so many darn benefits, and to me, that’s beyond tragic that this DEA, this DEA shift came out just came out of the blue. I mean now that I don’t know anyone was anticipating this, and I haven’t seen any commentaries yet. It just came out within a few hours, literally yesterday late yesterday, but it seems to me, the obvious reason, there’s the only explanation, because this is an absolutely an irrational decision.
Dr. Margaret Gedde: an irrational move… MORE...
Editor's note: No, it was not irrational to deter the use of CBD and cannabis in America, IF one assumes the government's policies are driven by special interests that simply don't want this medicine on the market.
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