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 I am an experienced smoker and everyday user, because of this I find the right potency to be about 3-4 grams (raw bud) per stic

BE ALL - END ALL GUIDE TO EDIBLES

The many ways to make excellent edibles.

 

"This cannabutter/oil recipe was developed over the past few years using a lot of trial and error into it. I share with you the  best method that I have found for infusing cannabis into oil/butter." - SpokesumSmot


Let me first start by highlighting the difference between using oil and butter. Butter and Oil each have their benefits. For oil the benefits is a higher fat content, I use refined coconut oil in particular to substitute for butter as it doesn't change the flavor much. Now that being said the difference between coconut oil and butter in fat content per serving is 12g vs 14g. So the difference isn't astronomical as such butter imparts a better flavor and so many times I will combine the two.


 

fat yes - sugar no

 

"It was the sugar producers' lobby that convinced people that it was fat, not sugar that is the problem. Contrary to urban myth, natural, fresh animal fats are now considered to be among the healthiest of foods.  Cannabinoids THC and CBD, found in the cannabis plant in abundance are also considered to be among the most beneficial of all supplements.  These are the findings of the top athletics and sports medicine professionals.  Natural fats are no associated with weight gain.  It is sugar and simple carbohydrates that are the problem in obesity. "

 

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Now first is getting the right amount of potency for yourself. I am an experienced smoker and everyday user, because of this I find the right potency to be about 3-4 grams (raw bud) per stick of butter (4 oz). Or per half cup of oil (4 oz). This results in rather strong butter with not to much cannabis flavor. I use flower only so adjust based on what your using.

Next comes grinding make sure that your bud isn't to wet and grind the shit out of it. The finer the better.

The next step in the process is known as decarboxylating. This is the process of turning THCA into THC, which is what our digestive tracts can absorb. You can read more on this subject at: (link in comments)

In order to decarboxylated your bud you need to turn your oven to 240 Fahrenheit. Get a cookie sheet and spread your ground bud over the sheet. Put into the oven and wait about 1.5 hr, it is dependent upon altitude, dryness of bud and other factors, so just wait for it to turn a golden brown color. Sometimes it will be less than 1.5 hr.

 

cooking oils for edibles


Once you have your decarboxylated bud you need to coat it with a high proof alcohol. This works to breakdown the cell walls and makes the trichomes(THC) more easily absorbed by your oil/butter.

Once it has absorbed the alcohol let it sit for 5 min.

In this time get a saucepan and put it on low with your oil/butter inside. Once your bud is done waiting put it into the oil to start infusing. This process will take approximately 2 hr. Keep stirring throughout and never allow it go above 250 deg. . This will keep it from vaporizing your THC. This temp is well below the vape temp, but ..I like to be safe. Keeping your burners on low should accomplish this though.

After 2 hr. you will have dark green/brown bud in the butter/oil. This is the right color you didn't burn it! Use a mesh strainer or cheesecloth to strain the oil into a container you can put into the fridge. Push/squeeze out all the oil from the cannabis. Your butter should be a green color, if its rather light in color or yellowish it is likely not potent enough.

After it has rested in the fridge to harden your butter/oil is ready to be used in your favorite recipe! I hope this helps, this recipe is based upon a chemist's recipe I saw on this YouTube video: (link in comments)

It's a cool documentary on hunter s thompson worth checking out. I have tried all kinds of methods from pressure cookers - all done in the oven. This is the most effective and best in my opinion.

 

abv already vaped buds


I feel this will help with some confusion. Sorry guys forgot to mention that with a higher fat content it will be more potent as it can absorb more d9THC into the oil. Don't forget to never bake your treats above 320 Fahrenheit in the oven or you will burn off thc. This goes for any cookies or brownies that recommend 350-375 F. While this is debated, it really just means cooking a bit longer than recommended. Forgot to add that when it's in the saucepan, it should be simmering at about 200 Fahrenheit. I keep a thermometer in the oil that has an alarm set at 250, just in case something is wrong.  


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Can you explain the coating in alcohol part with a bit more detail please?

enlightenedNo problem, it helps take the terpenes off the bud more easily and absorbed into the oil. The alcohol will all burn off as it has a very low boil point. I generally use something like Everclear (grain alcohol). And just take a tablespoon and poor it over the top then mix it around to coat all the bud. This part isn't crucial, but .it helps a bit.

yesDoes anyone know if isopropanol is okay to use? I know it's not safe for human consumption, but .I think it should be fine to use since it evaporates off, so long as it's a high purity (I have some 95% pure iso). Am I right or does it have to be ethanol?


yesyesyesFood-grade products are intended to be consumed and the safety of consumption is controlled/measured in these products. isopropanol is not manufactured to be consumed, and while it may actually be 90% isopropanol, that other 10% could possibly be something other than pure water even if it doesn't list any other inactive ingredients on the package. unlikely, but .possible. in regions where 190 proof grain alcohol is not legally obtained you may substitute bacardi 151 or similar high proof liquors. Actually, for this use of alcohol, even typical 80 proof liquor (vodka, for taste) would work to break down cell walls. in all honesty, you should skip this step of the process before resorting to isopropanol, even if someone on the internet says you would probably be okay. this step is all, but ..completely unnecessary and an anecdote estimating 5% increase in yield (way too small of an increase to notice) means nothing until tested. definitely skip this step if you are too young to purchase alcohol (assuming you are).

 

starting materials for edibles


yesyesOkay, I'll play devil's advocate.  I agree with the two others that said it's smarter to use food-grade ethanol, but .it's not overwhelmingly dangerous to use isopropanol if you fairly thoroughly cook it off. Emphasis on overwhelmingly and thoroughly. Isopropanol really isn't safe for consumption, but .if this is a one-off type thing for you, I wouldn't be too afraid of using it. isopropanol starts exhibiting toxicity at about five grams, which is a bit over 18 mL of isopropanol. If you feel comfortable that you have less than 10 mL of isopropanol left after cooking it off, then by all means, feel free to roll the dice. Even then, ISO (isopropyl alcohol) toxicity isn't quite as bad as something like methanol, god forbid, so you do you.  Would I recommend using isopropanol? Never. Would I personally use isopropanol? Probably not. Can you get away with it, especially if you're using a small amount? Probably.  Let me stress this: I'm really not condoning using isopropanol. I'm just giving you the tools to make a decision yourself about whether or not you want to take the risks.


yesFunny thing, the cure for methanol poisoning is ethanol :)


yesHeh. Yessir. Alcohol dehydrogenase will selectively metabolize ethanol over methanol, so getting drunk as all an unholy god is a good way to make sure you don't go blind from formic acid. Used to somewhat recklessly dabble in getting blasted drunk on lab-grade ethanol denatured with methanol for this very reason. Yay alcohol(s) pharmacology.


yesScience is so cool, holy cow, I love science. Do you know more about the metabolic pathway alcohol dehydrogenase uses to break down ethanol?


yesThere's not a whole lot to it, honestly. Comparatively speaking, the breakdown of alcohol is pretty simple. Basically, alcohol dehydrogenase busts up ethanol into acetaldehyde, which is further metabolized into acetic acid. Then, you excrete. Any specifics you're interested in?


yesThere's a detailed explanation in section 4 here, or the whole page has some interesting content.


yesThen what is the point of denaturing ethanol with methanol if you won't get sick or whatever when you drink it?

 



yesyesyesWell, truth be told, what I did still wasn't safe. It's pretty stupid to drink any amount of methanol even with concurrently administered ethanol. I'm a big boy with a crazy alcohol tolerance, so I would drink a shitton of the lab ethanol, which was actually safer speaking purely in terms of avoiding methanol toxicity. The amount most people would drink and feel fairly drunk may not saturate enough of alcohol dehydrogenase and leave some to make methanol into formic acid, so the danger is still present. Plus, before doing this, I would make an effort to limit the zinc in my diet (very stupid, very alcoholic in nature. or DEnature, hah), further reducing amount of alcohol dehydrogenase I would have available to metabolize the methanol.
 

Advice on Edibles- what to look for

Advice on Edibles: What to look for


yesyesAnyway, you're right, it's a liiiiiiittle bit pointless, but .because methanol in any amount would scare off most people dumb enough to drink lab grade ethanol in the first place would be my guess. While there are plenty of well educated alcoholics, they would be a minority in a setting where this particular thing was relevant. I just happen to be a fairly well educated and destructively determined borderline alcoholic, so I was slightly better equipped to walk this razor's edge. That being said, I was still walking on a razor's edge.


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yesThanks for that. Would you say you can notice a increase in potency by doing it this way? If so, how much?


yesI have been high plenty of times and forgotten the alcohol, its not integral. But I do notice maybe a 5% increase in potency. Watch the YouTube video, there is a chemist that explains the process a bit better.


yesyesyesNo offense to you or your method, but .this step is useless. After you weed is decarboxylated there is no point in putting alcohol on it, it wouldn't increase potency at all, like how could adding something bring out more thc? Also, terpenes are the chemicals in plants that make them taste and smell how they do, it is not THC. Cannabinoids are the active drugs in cannabis, not terpenes. Again no offense at all, just trying to save you time. EDIT: For people replying that terps increase potency, I know and understand that, but .when you decarboxylated the bud you lose those terpenes.


yesyesHe had long suspected that the terpenes present in cannabis resin enhance the potency of THC. Ten years after launching HortaPharm, Watson tested his hypothesis in an experiment that compared the subjective effects of one hundred %THC to lesser amounts in terpene-infused cannabis resin. The consensus among Watson and several associates: Terpene-infused resin with fifty %THC was more potent by dry weight than an equivalent amount of pure THC.
https://www.hightimes.com/read/talking-terpenes


yesyesyesI understand that terpenes increase the potency of the THC. That is why when you purge concentrates, you try to stay around one hundred or so deg. (under a vacuum), so you retain the terpenes in your final product. However, when you use this process that includes decarb your cannabis in an oven at 240 deg. , that burns off most of the terpenes that would help you increase potency. Therefore, what I'm saying is still correct, this step is useless, because you are not getting any terpenes or THC out of it, you already lost the max potency that you could have gotten. I am glad that a lot of people up-voted that and hopefully read that article explaining how that process work, and hopefully learned something lol EDIT: Actually you may still have terps after decarbing, but .why would you need alcohol to get those?(when you make cannabis butter is tastes like weed, so it must still have some terps in it, however, you don't need to wash your buds in alcohol to make cannabis butter taste like cannabis butter, right?)


yesYea that "terpenes(THC)" part made me chuckle. I also don't see a point in coating it in alcohol after decarbing, which should only take 45 min. to an hour at that temperature.


yesWell d9THC is also soluble in ethanol and many other types of alcohol so it might help with a note effective extract of the thc


yesyesYes, but ..also terpenes are all hydrocarbons and THCA is a hydrocarbon just a long one. I don't know much about CBD and different chemicals and how lysing a cell with alcohol would help them be released, but ..terpene doesn't necessarily just mean an aromatic chemical a plant creates.  Edit: did more research and THC nor THCA are terpenes, but ..still someone posted an article that said 50% THC with terpenes was a better high than 100% THC with no terpenes.


yesYee that is true, but ..when you bake the bud in the oven you already lost all of the terps. see what I'm sayin?


yesWould taking like a small brush and dipping it in alcohol and "painting" the bud be enough? Or would I need more? I just feel like dumping alcohol on there is a lot and messy and hard to control


yesI second this. I have never 'coated' my bud in alcohol unless I was making an alcohol tincture. I'm a tad confused at that paragraph
Edit: FYI high proof alcohol is flammable. It can be dangerous putting this on heat, do research before trying to purge alcohol with heat


yesI third this. I've experimented making several different tinctures and oils/butters, but .I've never seen alcohol used in this way. I'd love to get more information about how/why this works, and I'm thinking about maybe doing this the next time I make some butter.


yesThis is interesting and makes a lot of sense actually. If you use a high proof, even ISO (isopropyl-alcohol)alc. it helps take the d9THC off the bud. Now, since he's infusing it with oil, I would assume that you can use ISO (isopropyl-alcohol)because you're simmering it in oil, so it would burn off the alcohol completely, making it safe to consume. However, I too, am interested in which alcohol was used.


yesYou can use Everclear / Golden Grain (pure grain alcohol, 190 proof) for this step.

yesThis is just plain food safe ethyl or drinking alcohol, and since it is manufactured for human consumption you don't have to worry about any nasty industrial impurities in it.

yesThe THC dissolves very quickly into the alcohol -- on the order of seconds (you often do a quick wash a couple of times with Everclear (grain alcohol) to make tinctures) so this seems like it would just make a fast tincture and then help dissolve the THC into the butter.

yesDo not a necessary step, but .it might somehow speed extraction of all the benefits from your plant.


yesYea, but ..honestly, why not purge it first in open air then adding the hash to the oil. Essentially, I feel like he's converting his bud to tincture or hash, then making the oil/butter with the tincture/hash, which is an option, but ..not really necessary.


yesExcept you don't need to take the d9THC off the bud because that's what the fats are doing, so you don't really need to do the alcohol part.


yesyesI agree with the decarbing being too much, but .it doesn't create THC-COOH if I remember it right, it creates CBN (as explained here). Correct me if I am wrong, but .that is why long decarboxylation tends to create more sedatives high, as explained in the same page as the graph you are referring to. The THC is slowly converted into CBN, not vaporized so it does not create metabolites. THC-COOH is a metabolite created by the body while processing THC and 11OH THC.  How long you decarboxylate after reaching the optimal time is up to you depending on how sedative you want your oil to be.


yesThis is the absolutely correct. OP should edit the post.


yesCould someone please ELI5 what this means and what i'd need to adjust in OP's instructions?


yesIf you want a pretty sedative high then nothing . If you want a less sedative high then decarboxylate in the oven for about 45 min. to an hour and keep the butter on the stove around 150 deg. .


yes150°F or °C? Because 150°F is way to low. Usually decarboxylate is 30 min. at 250°F or 1h at 200°F.


yesAll the decarbing will be completed in the oven during the 45 min. No need to get it that hot and continue the decarbing process while soaking it in the butter. All you need to do there is let the fat and THC bond together.


 

yesYou are right, decarbing will be done. But the infusion is more efficient around that temp, it is not about decarbing anymore.


yesI've had great success with my method of decarbing first and soaking at 150 for just an hour. 150 is plenty, more heat isn't going to do anything, but ..begin to boil away terpenes which aid in the psychoactive effect of cannabinoids. It may even get hot enough to boil away certain cannabinoids. Nothing beneficial is going to happen with that much heat and time besides the conversion of THC to CBN.


yesSome terpenes will be gone because off decarb, but .the oil won't get hot enough to vaporize cannabinoids. THC starts vaporizing around 310°F, so at 212°F it should be fine. But I agree : soaking at 150°F works, but .I think it can be more efficient. Do you strain the cannabis out of the oil?  

yesyesYou are correct. I was trying to post from memory and mixed up some compounds. Ideal aging and decarbing reactions will convert THCA to d9THC by removing the cooh group via non-oxidizing pyrolysis. Over time when exposed to air THCA will become CBNA which heat or uv light will decarboxylate into CBN. If it gets too hot it will cause an oxidation reaction which will effectively metabolize into 11ohd9THC or THC-COOH. This is also why if you may have a test coming up, you are much better off vaping because thc-cooh is the long lasting metabolite that is screened for and burning cannabis produces high quantities of it.


yesyesThis is intriguing. My method is mostly based on a chemist/molecular biologist. She is the developer for a edibles company in Colorado. Maybe there has been some developments in the science behind it all. And it should max at 220 on the oven. And generally I find the bud to be decarboxylated within 45 min. So I think there are some differences than what you are saying. I have tried them with an under an hour method with 250-290 temp and potency just wasn't the same.


yesThat particular data is for THC extracted in hexane. It likely doesn't apply well to the solid phase method used by OP.


yesI also thought you want to have an airtight seal around it when you are decarbing; I wrap mine in foil, but ..I'm not sure if it actually matters.



yesI thought the same thing, I only decarboxylated mine for like 10 min, used a quarter for a sheet (20 total) of 1.5x1.5 in. brownies and they were pretty sweet



yesWell, you are right, but .in the search for efficiency, high temp decarboxylate is riskier than low temp, because the difference 5 min. can make in both methods.


yesWhat do you think about this guide? Also : do you use soy lecithin? Your guide is interesting and matches a lot this one from /r/treedibles. Please consider cross posting it!


yesyesyesThe decarboxylate process should not take 1.5 hr. It should only be about 20 min. or so, maybe 30 min. max, provided the cannabis you have is already pretty well cured. Also, it's important to note that once you have decarboxylated your weed, it's not necessary to cook it for a long time such as 2 hr. I'd suggest heating your stove on low-medium heat until your butter is melted, then add your ground bud (coffee grinder works best), then stir in the cannabis until fully mixed. Cook for about 10 min. and grab your cheesecloth and a handy container for storage. Do not overcook your weed, because even though it will still get you high, it will turn brown and taste like shit. Once you've strained your cannabis butter, store in an air-tight container in your refrigerator for 24 hrs. This gives the butter a good amount of time to mingle with that bud and makes a wonderful green tinted budder. My final suggestion (if possible) is to not use bud at all. Most grinders allow you to save Kief, which in my opinion is a much better way to make budder as you don't get that overbearing cannabis flavor when you cook with it. In my experience, it usually takes 1/4 to 1/2 the amount of cannabis you would normally use to have the same potency. It might take longer to save up some Kief, but .I look at edibles as an occasional thing anyway and Kief is really just a bonus to what I already smoke, so it's really the best way to go.


yesI agree : using trim, Kief or ABV (already been vaped) is more efficient than using straight buds. However, not everybody can/want to do that.


yesIts honestly just really entertaining. Take 20 min. and enjoy yourself. They're other videos are really cool too, the videos are made by vice. This channel called munchies is there food news channel.


yesThat was a really awesome video, thanks for sharing! I really like what Vice are doing and I love everything about Hunter S Thompson, so that was a really great watch.


yesThis is a very convoluted method for making oil. You can easily decarboxylate bud in a saucepan by just adding the amount of oil you need for the recipe and keeping the oil just under a simmer for 45 min. I use about 1/4 oz of bud when I make brownies.


yesThis is absolutely correct, there is absolutely zero need to do any special decarboxylation, it will happen in the oil when you cook it. Just as it happens when you burn and inhale it.


yesOr just use a vape and get twice as much out of your weed!


yesThen you require 4x as much ABV (already been vaped) cannabis though


 

yesThis is why I love vapes.


yesThanks for the guide! Love how you explain why you do every part of your method that, specific way. Can you please explain a bit more how to keep a steady temperature while mixing cannabis with butter?

yesYou can also use a crockpot on low setting, or put your oil in a mason jar, then put it in boiling water. This way, it doesn't go above 212°F.


yesThis is so much better than doing it on the stove. Everyone should have a crockpot anyway.


yesI have found that the lowest setting on my oven keeps the oil at about 220 the whole time. There will be minor fluctuations, but ..nothing of concern.


yesMy youth group director saw me reading this, and asked me what edibles were. I convinced him that it was about fruits and which ones were poisonous and not. He completely believed me, saving me a lecture about Jesus. ????????


yesJesus saves, unfortunately all he ever has is shitty Mexican brick cannabis -, but ..a bit of stress is better than a lot of sobriety


yesYeah Satan always brings the good shit.


yesWell, it is the devil's lettuce


yesNot to get on a religion rant, but ..didn't God make all the creatures and plants in this world for us? . Actually, I think the good book even says herbs. Just sayin.

yesAwesome guide, and just in time I was about to make space cookies tomorrow. I can't wait to try decarboxylating! I've never read about that anywhere before. I did have a question. After I've made my cannabutter will it matter what temperature I'm baking my cookies at? The recipe calls for the oven to be at 350F, but ..will I cook out some of the cannabinoids at the temp?


yesWhat is the mass of a stick of butter where you are? 4-5 grams is a lot less than I would usually use.


yesOne hundred fifteen grams of butter to five grams tree.

yesIt's light in my opinion as well


yesA stick of butter is a standard unit. Its a quarter pound


yesI've recently soaked my arizer solo stem in ISO (isopropyl alcohol) and let it evaporate, so im left with oil. How do I know all the ISO (isopropyl alcohol) is gone (evaporated) before vaping it? Could vaping the oil with some ISO (isopropyl alcohol) left in it (trace amounts) be harmful?


yesyesVaping ISO (iso-propyl alcohol) is not recommended. Once it is not liquid anymore (most ISO (isopropyl alcohol) evaporates), heat your hash oil a bit to really make sure all of it is gone. I usually burn a match above it at the very end, once the room has been well ventilated and that there is no risk of explosion. If there are flames, then there was still iso. However I never had a flame appear if heated well enough.


yesCould I use my ABV (already been vaped) for this?


yesyesYes, you just skip this part.  The next step in the process in known as decarboxylating. This is the process of turning THCA into THC, which is what our digestive tracts can absorb. You can read more on this subject at: (link in comments).  In order to decarboxylate your weed you need to turn your oven to 240 Fahrenheit. Get a cookie sheet and spread your ground bud over the sheet. Put into the oven and wait about 1.5 hr, it is dependent upon altitude, dryness of bud and other factors so just wait for it to turn a golden brown color. Sometimes it will be less than 1.5 hr.because ABV (already been vaped) is already decarboxylated bud


yesYes, ABV (already been vaped) is very good for edibles.


yesAnd it's already been decarboxylated!


yes8 brownies doesn't tell us a whole lot, like are you using an 8x8" pan or what? If you are I'd say about 1/8oz, I cut my brownies into 16ths and they're very strong when I use 1/4oz


yesCan someone translate this into Metric or Imperial instead of 'cups' and 'sticks' for us European/British ents? Thanks!:)


yes1 stick is roughly one hundred fifteen grams.



yesOkay, is there a link to what to do w/ butter/oil after its made? If a box of brownies calls for 3/4 cup of oil, do I use ALL cannabis infused oil or some cannabis, some regular? If I use all, how do I know how big to cut brownies to get a nice solid body buzz for a regular smoker?


yesI believe it's all cannabis oil.

yesAs for brownie size, there probably is no easy answer other than to try it.  Start small, wait 30-45 min, if nothing then wait an hour. After that and not feeling anything, try another piece.
It depends on how strong your oil is. Some batches I've made I end up only doing 1/3 to 1/4 infused.


yesCan someone explain why both times I've bought edibles (once gummies, once a chocolate bar) from the dispensary I ended up puking my brains out?


yesI ate some ABV and dry heaved for an hour till my chest hurt, but .when I vape cannabis I just get like a mellow high, nothing spectacular.


yesMaybe it was too much for you. Do you recall the dosage? 10 milligram is more than enough for most people trying edibles for the first time.

 

Cannabutter - How to Make it Properly

HOW TO MAKE CANNABUTTER FOR EDIBLES


yesI thought this said the end of all edibles and I got worried


yesI've always been curious about the decarboxylation process, at least chemically what is taking place.

yesDoes it require (some) exposure to the atmosphere - likely oxygen? If not, why is it not accomplished during the 250F poaching in oil?


yesOil should be around 200.


yesHave you ever tried using coconut oil instead of butter. Higher fat content= more d9THC absorption


yesIn my opinion coconut oil is the best medium to be used. That and a crock pot. Low heat for a day or two, then filter it with cheesecloth.


yesyesyesyesFuck the saucepan. Use a crock pot.


yesJust what I've been looking for, thanks man!


yesMy friend has been saving all of his Kief for months to use in edibles. Does any of this need to be adjusted for Kief?


yesIn this guide there are ratios of THC content per kind of consumables. I believe they are not very accurate, but .they can give you a general idea.


yesHow much does making edibles smell? like if I made it in a apartment would that be a bad idea?


yesThere are different ways to decarb. Using a mason jar as explained in here can lead to stink-less results. Put your oil or your butter in the mason jar once you are done decarbing, and put your mason jar in a saucepan of boiling water (without putting water in the jar). It keeps it at the right temp, and almost doesn't smell.


yesI've done it in an apartment and it's never been an issue. Just turn the oven fan on and crack a window and you should be fine.


yesIt can be rather potent. I've never had to worry about it, but .a friend had success using a simple crockpot recipe in her room overnight, door closed window open. It would be best to just wait until you have the house to yourself for a day or two though, so you can use a good recipe and make better oil.


yesCould someone help me out with dosage please?  I'll be using high quality flower, just would like to know how much to put in to get me nice and stoned. If I am making enough brownies for 5 people (smokers with a high tolerance) is 5g total enough? Any rule of thumb?


yesNo real rule of thumb on dosage here, unfortunately. I would suggest making a batch of 6-8 muffins using an 8th. This way, everyone has their one, and there are.a.couple leftovers for the friends who would like a bit  more after an hour. Or make a batch of 15 cookies using an 8th, so everyone can have 1 to start, a second after an hour, and some people will be done there, others may need 4 cookies.

yesThanks man the 15 cookies idea sounds perfect, I guess it's more of an art than a science


yesI made budder with a 1/2 oz, 2 sticks of butter. I ate 8 cookies and felt like [4].


yesI like 7 g of quality bud myself per batch, 5 is a bit  light. The problem is I don't know how you're dividing up your brownies. If you're just going to cut it into 8ths i'd use less cannabis because your brownie is going to be larger. I cut mine into 16ths and use more cannabis because it's more cost effective.


yesCost effective for the cannabis or the brownie mix?


yesyesyesFirst off, smoking tolerance and edible tolerance is different.  Edibles are different because of the way they are processed by the body. When you smoke/vape, THC and others go into your lungs, then access your blood, and cross the blood-brain barrier. So delta-9-THC is the main cannabinoid to create the high. The blood then goes through your liver bit  by bit , and delta-9-THC is metabolized into 11-OH-THC, which is much stronger, but .only a small amount is produced. And you are already high from delta-9-THC.  With edibles, the cannabinoids have to go through your liver to go into the blood. So 11-OH-THC is produced at a much higher concentration, and hits your brain pretty much at the same moment than delta-9-THC, hence creating a "new" kind of high.

yesyesyesPeople who have a high tolerance from smoking actually have a high tolerance to delta-9-THC. They also have a tiny tolerance to 11-OH-THC, depending on the rate that their liver   People who eat edibles regularly can develop a tolerance to edibles, because they are developing a tolerance to 11-OH-THC. Now for the dosage, you need to think in terms of THC mass, not cannabis mass. 10 milligram is enough (or more than enough)for most people. Some will require higher amounts, other way lower (I start being blasted with 5mg) : depends on the tolerance.
To have 10 milligram per person, you need to know how much is in your weed. A cannabis at 10% THC is pretty common, although depending on your location, you can be more around 15% (if you know the strain, leaf.ly is a good website).  With a cannabis at 10%, 5g gives you five hundred milligram of THC. For 5 people, that's 10 times the required amount. So, making fifty brownies is an option. Or using only 2g (200 milligram total), making 10 brownies, eating only 1/4th to start with. Wait 2h, if it's not enough, eat another 1/4th. At the end of the day, if it wasn't enough, you'll still have plenty of brownies left, so you can gulp a whole one if you feel like it the day after.


yesThank you, this is exactly the sort of explanation I was looking for!  In your experience, do you lose a significant amount of THC during the decarboxylation and cooking process? If so, should I adjust for it or just eat more brownies?


yesyesDecarb, if done right, is supposed to create more THC. It converts THCa into THC, CBDa and CBD, . Once decarboxylation is done, you can keep decarbing to turn THC into CBN. Decarboxylation happens at a lower temperature than the vaporization of cannabinoids. If you get higher than 310-320°F, then it starts destroying THC. Once you're done baking and put your dough in the oven, even if it goes higher than 320°F, the loss of THC will be lower because it has mixed with the fat. Check this out, it tells you pretty much everything you need to know to make edibles. There are more rapid ways to make edibles than other, but ..decarboxylation is the step that you should be most careful about. EDIT : I'd like to add that if you're using high quality bud like you are saying, then the THC% will be higher. If you know the strain, check leafly to have a better idea.


yesSo the brownie mix recommends 325 deg. , should I just lower the temp and raise the time?
Baking temp and decarboxylation temp are different. You can bake at 325. Some of the THC may be lost, but .it should be a pretty small amount in regard of what's already in your mix.


 

yesAny idea what the differences in the method are if you're using browns (vaped weed)? I generally simmer with the butter for 35-45 min, but .I'm not too good on proportions.


yesHow much butter do you eat in a meal? How many times a day?


yesHave you ever used lecithin in your batches? I've been using lecithin capsules in my coconut oil, I believe it makes a huge difference in allowing your body to actually absorb the d9THC and allows for more potent edibles.


yesSoy lecithin works wonders !


yesDo we grind then put in the oven? or put it in the oven then grind it


yesyesOP says to grind then decarb, I've always heard the other one. From what I understood, it creates a safeguard in case your oven gets too hot and it also help assess the state of decarboxylation by checking the dryness of the weed. Once it has been decarboxylated, grinding is much easier, so you end up more quickly with a flour like consistency.


yesI plan on getting a grasshopper vaporizer soon. If I were to save up that ABV (already been vaped) into a huge jar, that pretty much covers decarboxylation, correct?


yesYep. Works great.


yesyesThe beauty of ABV (already been vaped) is that because it already has been decarb, then you can eat it straight up. Because it can have an unpleasant taste, people usually grind it finely then mix it with peanut butter or whatever. You can also put it in empty capsules to make Canna caps, although it's better use THC infused oil to make Canna caps. It's all explained here.


yesyesyesAwesome recipe! I wanted to leave mine too, my buddies that tried them were put to sleep within 4 hr. of taking them, the process is a little bit shorter.  So for my recipe instead of using flower I actually use concentrate, typically shatter or wax. I personally find this makes the process much easier and decarboxylation more rapid. Like OP said you can use butter or oil, I personally use coconut oil most of the time. Now I cook based on the recipe so the amount of oil I use depends on what the recipe calls for. The amount of concentrate depends on the number of servings I'm making, for brownies I'll typically use 3 grams of concentrate and make 10 servings.  Now here's the process, the first step is decarboxylation. There are a few ways to do this and the most sound sound way that I have found, when using concentrates, is to use a double-boiler or make-shift one. I use a fondue maker and a Pyrex personally, along with a digital cooking thermometer which you will need.  To decarboxylate the oil what you will need to do is take Crisco, or any other cooking oil with a boiling point above 325 Fahrenheit and place it in the fondue maker (can be replaced with a saucepan on the stove). Let the crisco melt and then place your Pyrex measuring cup, or other glassware, in the oil and put the thermometer in the cup. Now put your desired amount of cannabis concentrates in your pyrex.  During this process keep an eye on the temperature and bring it up to about 250 Fahrenheit, you'll want to stay slightly under. As the temperature rises to around 180 Fahrenheit you'll notice the concentrate begin to bubble, these are the first stages of decarboxylating the oil. Once you bring the concentrate to about 250 Fahrenheit let it sit at that temperature until it stops bubbling completely and the last bubble has popped on its own. The concentrate is now ready to cook with.

 

yesyesTo mix the concentrate with butter/cooking oil all you do is melt it together and stir. At this point in the process, you need not worry about the temperature and burning off THC because after decarboxylation it will only be activated by fats as opposed to temperature. Once you've mixed together the decarboxylated concentrate and cooking oil you're ready to cook with it.  The total process for decarboxylation of oil typically takes me no more than 40 min. now, including melting the cooking oil into it.


yesHow small quantities, is this effective on? I'm a poor student, so I don't got the money to buy a big sack. Wouldn't It be worth with let's say 5-10 grams?


yesyesDepending on your cannabis, THC%, one gram can be enough. It seems very minute, but .if it is around 10% for example, then one gram stores 100mg. A regular serving is 10 milligram in Colorado. Try this : decarboxylate one gram of weed, grind it finely and put it in a brownie mix or something like that. Cut 10 brownies out of that, and eat 1/4th. Wait 2h, see if you feel anything. If it's not enough, take another 1/4th. If it's still not enough, take half a brownie the day after. You can always take more, but .you can never take less, so work your way up. Here are some other easy recipes.

 

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